APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
It was moved by Commissioner Staab and seconded by
Commissioner Wingfield to approve the agenda as written.
Voice Vote Unanimous
PRESENTATION: Landings Park design
presentation by architectural firm Hamilton-Anderson.
Commissioner Dooley introduced Lori Singleton from
Hamilton-Anderson.
Ms. Singleton stated that we are in the first step
of the process to develop plans for Landings Park for the first phase of
implementation. What will be discussed and shared is a conceptual master
plan for the park, building off of what was developed previously. A first
phase project will be pulled from this plan. They will show not just the
first phase but the ultimate build out of the park. If the overall intent is
approved we will take the components we think should be developed as the
first phase and make a recommendation to meet the current budget that is
allocated for park construction.
The goals for the park are to introduce new
elements to make it more active, provide clear access to the water and
enhance the lake shore theme, blend with the neighborhood, provide an
attraction for the region and local community and provide historic
reference.
They did research looking back at the heritage of
the park and the development over time to understand what had been there.
Before the current settlement and development were the Native American
Potawatomie communities. After development there was a casino with bands and
dancing and also a Fair Grounds with a rollercoaster and rides. Currently it
is clear and open and ready for its future.
Access to the waterfront is the primary
opportunity here. We also want to provide informal picnic event spaces with
potential opportunity for rental. The multimodal trail there is well used
and should be enhanced and incorporated. There is a potential for fishing
access and a pier, which extends past the banks, play areas and parking
needs to be considered with higher use and demand opportunities. There could
also be a small boat launch for canoes and kayaks. Shoreline restoration and
habitat creation and wildlife water viewing can all be compatible within a
site like this.
The water’s edge and making it as wonderful an
amenity as it can be is a great opportunity. Key view point areas where a
glimpse of an attraction or focal point would be at the intersection of Old
Novi Road and Thirteen Mile and also coming from Thirteen Mile Road. Parking
would need to be located where there is minimal impact to adjacent
residences. The water is fairly shallow quite a ways out or about five feet
deep for a couple of hundred feet. As a fishing opportunity this is more of
a place for young people to learn how to cast and some introduction to
fishing.
This is the plan prior to their inclusion on the
project. This is representative of the Phase One component. The original
Phase One plan included improvement of the waterfront edge, a small pier
that goes out in to the water, a major pathway that links components of the
site, tree planting and a few parking spaces. The plan they have developed
is similar in terms of the character and flavor but with modifications. One
of the things they feel is most important is to create a very dynamic edge
at the waterfront and to allow the water environment to come in to the site
and for the park environment to reach out toward the water. The primary
space is coming off of Old Novi Road with a grand lawn that reaches out
toward the lake in a really clear and formal way. This could be used
informally by groups or stage a large event. There could potentially be a
pavilion overlooking the water where amphitheater type activities could be
set up. At the end of the great lawn are more formal steps down to the
water. Along the water’s edge are a few smaller spaces. They are showing a
potential of twenty parking spaces on each side of the park which are more
than proposed before. She pointed out two areas for potential play areas and
an area for a potential splash pad close to the water that could be
developed in the future and possibly a small bath house or restroom facility
could be anchored to that.
As you approach from Old Novi Road there is a
small entry plaza that signals you are in a special place.
The water’s edge can be developed with a natural
edge on either side of the great lawn so all along the edges can be
naturalized and stabilized. Right now there is erosion. This can be enhanced
with natural plantings.
She showed pictures of what different areas might
look like.
Play equipment has a lot of change going on in the
industry and she gave examples of some of these.
Commissioner Tecklenburg asked how much shoreline
is there at the park and what the breakout would be on natural versus built.
Ms. Singleton stated there are about 750 or 800
lineal feet and the break out would be two thirds natural to one third
built.
Commissioner Tecklenburg asked if there would be
lighting for evening usage.
Ms. Singleton stated she thought that would be
something we would want to incorporate. The Phase One project will not have
a lot of that incorporated in to it but the infrastructure can be developed.
Commissioner Wingfield stated he is concerned that
the number of parking spaces may not be adequate for heavy usage on a
weekend.
Ms. Singleton stated that what they are showing
now is about forty parking spaces. This is a good time to assess what kind
of usage may be happening in the park. If there are going to be things like
"Concerts in the Park," it might be a good idea to reinforce some of the
turf for larger temporary parking areas. She feels that the forty spaces
will accommodate the day to day use of the park.
Commissioner Wingfield stated if there was a big
event people could park at Lakeshore Park and walk down if needed.
Commissioner Staab asked if there was any beach on
that property or thought of a beach.
Ms. Singleton stated that there is not right now
and it is not anything they were hearing needed to be incorporated. In
historic pictures she saw where they had put play equipment out in the
water.
Commissioner Staab asked what the price tag is for
the phases.
Director Mangum stated that the first phase
project cost was between six hundred thousand and seven hundred thousand
dollars. That gives us the site plan, some of the grading, a few of the
elements talked about and the walkways. The other elements would need to be
budgeted in future years.
Commissioner Staab asked if that was basically
site development and parking.
Director Mangum stated that there were also
several other elements included such as shoreline stabilization, a
historical marker, landscaping and trees, the major walkways and the pier.
Commissioner Staab stated that he had just gotten
out of a Walkable Novi meeting and there are many pathways in that area so
it could be good access for bicycles and walking. He is glad that we are
doing this with the property.
Commissioner Policicchio stated that he would
suggest what is done there is integrated with what is already in the area so
we are not spending money duplicating things we already have or could have.
Since there is a lot of biking and walking through and around the Landings,
consideration should be given to seating, bike racks and possibly a drinking
fountain. Making it a passive park will not duplicate what we have at
Lakeshore Park and it will minimize the future maintenance cost. This park
may be a good place for many people to start their bike ride or walk.
Ms. Singleton stated they saw things much the same
way.
Commissioner Dooley complemented the concept plan.
He stated that he likes the historical reference and does not want to lose
sight of what was there in the past. He stated that because of the shallow
water there is potential for algae and weeds and would like to see it very
clean but does not want to minimize attracting wildlife. He asked if there
had been any thought to providing wireless at the park for social media.
Ms. Singleton replied that would be possible but
should be investigated and is worth planning for.
Student Representative Kodali stated that he
thinks the wireless is a good idea and he also likes the steps at the
water’s edge. He thinks people his age may go there to do their homework.
CITIZEN COMMENTS:
A citizen stated that he liked the idea of the
steps because it gives people the opportunity to get close to the water
without actually getting into the water or put their feet in the water if
they want. He is not sure about the two thirds and one third in regard to
the environmental aspect. We have many areas in the City where we have
wildlife. The benefit of this area is the access to the water and if you cut
two thirds of the access it will limit the opportunity to get into the
water. Shawood Lake is close and has a lot of wildlife. He would rather have
access to the water. He has seen areas that even have picnic tables in the
water. He agrees that there should not be any active playgrounds there. He
feels it would take up less space to have diagonal parking off of the
existing roads. He feels that if you are going to bring children there,
there need to be restrooms.
Vonna and Andrea stepped up to speak. Vonna stated
that the park is a good idea and they think that there should be beaches.
Vonna also thinks there should be a playground because it is a place where
she could take her little sister on the weekend and picnic and a good place
to go with friends after school and do homework. Andrea stated that Wi-Fi is
a good idea.
Commissioner Dooley asked them if they thought the
park should be more passive or active.
Andrea replied that it should be more passive and
relaxed.
Adam stated that he likes the idea that it is not
a place you would go to do just one activity because there is a variety. He
stated that he is a skateboarder. Since the modern skate park was shut down
at Fountain Walk it leaves skateboarders with nowhere to go. He thought a
small area for skateboarders could be added there.
Commissioner Dooley asked him if he envisioned the
park as being more passive or active.
Adam replied a more active park because people
will go there as a destination. With Lakeshore being close it gives more
options. He mountain bikes at Lakeshore Park. This would be a park to relax
and do other activities.
Commissioner Dooley thanked the citizens for their
thoughts.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
A. Approval of the September 8, 2011 minutes.
It was moved by Commissioner Tecklenburg and
seconded by Commissioner Wingfield.
Voice Vote Unanimous
COMMITTEE REPORTS:
A. Walkable Novi - Commissioners Policicchio & Torimoto
Commissioner Policicchio stated that the Committee
did not have a quorum but they did review the pathway and sidewalk
prioritization and analysis. The complete document is online. There was
recognition of the award that the non-motorized plan was received. The next
meeting is in January.
B. Novi Parks Foundation - Commissioners Staab and
Dooley
Commissioner Staab stated that the Foundation is
meeting tonight for the first time since September. The net proceeds from
the Golf Outing were around fourteen thousand dollars. They are proceeding
with the Executive Director position. He and Commissioner Balconi are
working on the interviews. They are also working on naming rights.
STAFF REPORTS:
A. Administration Division-Director Jason Mangum
1. Parks/Programs Update
– Director Mangum
a. National Recreation &
Park Association Congress
Director Mangum attended
this meeting earlier this month in Atlanta, Georgia. He attended many
education sessions and earn CEUs to help keep certification. He also talked
to playground companies and software companies. Tony Hawk, a professional
skater, was the keynote speaker. He talked about his experience, skate parks
and how skateboarding has evolved and the perception of skateboarding.
Director Mangum talked about some of the classes he attended.
b. Meadowbrook Commons
10th Anniversary
Director Mangum stated
that the Anniversary was held in September. There were 152 participants. The
Mayor and many of the members of City Council were there.
c. Sports Leagues Update
Director Mangum stated
that Adult Softball is over for the season. Youth Soccer is also over. We
had 376 in our house league and 196 in our travel league. Youth Flag
Football is growing. We had 80 participants. Youth Basketball is currently
underway with 270 participants on 34 teams.
d. CAPRA (Commission for
Accreditation of Park and Recreation Agencies) Update
Director Mangum stated
that they are starting to meet bimonthly on CAPRA. Every staff member has
been assigned one of the chapters or topics that have several standards
within that chapter. The staff assignment is included in the packet.
e. Baseline Marker
Dedication
Director Mangum stated
that the dedication was in September and the artist, David Barr, attended.
There were several members from the community and Historical Commission who
were the driving force. The marker is in ITC Community Sports Park.
f. Health Fair
The Health Fair was
sponsored by the Senior Center. It was held in the Civic Center.
Ninety-seven flu shots were given that day. And Twenty-nine pints of blood
were collected.
2. Current Events – Director Mangum
a. LUTN (Light Up The
Night)
Director Mangum stated
that this event will occur on Friday, December 2, at the Civic Center. It
was formerly Ringing in the Holidays. It takes up the whole City campus.
Director Mangum listed some of the activities.
b. Youth Basketball
Director Mangum stated
that basketball is now going on and is successful. He stated that
Commissioner Torimoto had e-mailed and stated that he is happy with the new
game venue and that the majority of the feedback we are getting is very
positive.
c. Aladdin, Jr. / Hansel
& Gretel
Director Mangum stated
that one play is wrapping up and the other is getting ready to start.
Aladdin, Jr. just finished this past weekend. There was a smaller than usual
audience the first weekend but then the word got out and the last
performance of the following weekend was sold out. Hansel & Gretel is
December 9th, 10th and 11th here at the
Novi Civic Center and is a youth production as well.
Commissioner Dooley
spoke for Commissioner Torimoto about the good things that are happening
with Youth Basketball with the new venue, Theresa McClure and staff.
Commissioner Wingfield
asked if the Michigan Jaguars, which used to be called the Novi Jaguars, are
still utilizing our facilities as much.
Director Mangum stated
that they are still based in Novi and are still one of the primary users of
our soccer complex. They host their big tournament here in Novi. Our travel
teams actually participate in the same league.
Matt Ostermeyer stated
that the Jaguars are still based in Novi. They have branched out and playing
in more places but that is because they have grown. We collected a little
more in fees from them this year for field use due to more games.
Commissioner Wingfield
asked if basketball practices and games are at the new site.
Matt Ostermeyer replied
that just the games are at the new site and that practices during the week
are still held at the schools. The games are played between 8:30am and
1:30pm on Saturday which is working out well for the families. He stated
that we are also hoping to get volleyball games played there as well.
Commissioner Tecklenburg
asked if the soccer numbers were on the upswing or stable.
Matt Ostermeyer stated
that is stable with a little upswing in the house league.
Commissioner Tecklenburg
asked when we are holding Flag Football.
Matt Ostermeyer replied
that we will put more marketing in to it but we were up a few participants
this year. It may be a Sunday afternoon league next year so kids can play
both soccer and flag football. These games are held on the baseball
outfields at ITC Community Sports Park. He stated that the Bobcats Football
practice at Wildlife Woods Park.
Commissioner Wingfield
asked Matt Ostermeyer about Adult Softball.
Matt Ostermeyer
explained about the decision to keep the leagues as they are so they can
accommodate more teams. They did a survey of the managers.
Commissioner Staab asked
Lauren Nowakowski about participation numbers in her programs.
Lauren Nowakowski stated
currently the participation numbers are where we thought they would be. In
the theatre participation depends on the show. The audition rate was higher
for "Hansel & Gretel" but could accommodate for only 21 parts. The numbers
for Choralaires are down a little from last year but could be due to the
retirement of the director after 38 years. The Novi Concert Band numbers
shift because it is a volunteer group but has been steady over the last
three years at about 70 members. The Choralaires and Novi Concert Band both
have holiday concerts.
MATTERS FOR COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND/OR ACTION:
A. Tim Pope Playground
Director Mangum stated
that the Tim Pope Playground has been a matter of discussion over the past
few years. It is an impressive but older playground. The standards have
changed on playground design and safety. There are some things on the
playground that need to be adjusted or are out of standard. It has been on
the capital improvement list for the past several years to be up for
replacement this next fiscal year. He did research on the playground, Tim
Pope and why this type of playground was chosen to honor him. The playground
was scheduled to be replaced by a standard post and deck system. He spoke
with Commissioner Staab who was instrumental in building the Tim Pope
playground. He met with one of the playground companies in the area and they
offer something similar to what he passed out. Director Mangum went over the
playground options in the packet. He feels that if we do go forward and
replace this play structure it needs to be done with the people who were
instrumental in building the playground in the first place. He has been in
contact with Sarah Pope, Tim Pope’s widow, and he will meet with her to see
how she would like to see things move forward.
Commissioner Wingfield
asked if the play structure would be taken down and the new one put in the
same place.
Director Mangum stated
that is correct and they would leave the fencing around it because of the
donation pickets.
Commissioner Wingfield
asked about the safety of the wood.
Director Mangum stated
when the playground assessment study was done by an outside consultant they
found that the arsenic levels were so low that a considerable amount would
have to be ingested to cause problems. We want to replace it to have
something as safe as we can.
Commissioner Wingfield
stated there is a three hundred thousand dollar estimate and asked if a
structure like the one presented is in that price range.
Director Mangum
confirmed this.
Commissioner Tecklenburg
asked how long it would take to come in and put up a structure like page
three of the concept.
Director Mangum compared
community build to manufacturer build.
Commissioner Policicchio
asked if the three hundred thousand dollars included the demolition.
Director Mangum replied
that it did not.
Student Representative
Kodali stated he likes the tire swings in playgrounds.
Director Mangum stated
that many of the elements are ADA accessible and that is very important and
a huge plus.
Commissioner Staab
stated that Brighton’s problem was in the wood chips and treatments. He
asked if there were any playgrounds like the concepts presented built in the
area.
Director Mangum stated
that there are not. There may be one with the arches built somewhere between
here and Lansing.
Commissioner Staab
talked about the original construction of the Tim Pope Memorial Play
structure and his experience and feelings about it.
B. CIP Plan (Capital Improvement Projects)
Director Mangum went
over the items that have moved up on the Capital Improvement Projects list
including three play structures, Greenway development phase one (the ITC
corridor trail from ITC Community Sports Park to Ten Mile Road), Landings
Park phase two and Village Oaks/Orchard Hills park development (on either
side of Meadowbrook Road).
In the fiscal year
2013/2014 there is ITC Community Sports Park Play Structure replacement
(second play structure), Power Park Play Structure replacement, ITC
Community Sports Park pathway resurfacing, Greenway development phase two,
Lakeshore Park asphalt parking lot and drive, Landings Park phase three.
Fiscal year 2014/2015
includes ITC Community Sports Park engineering design services for lighting
and artificial turf, Greenway development phase three and ITC Community
Sports Park paved asphalt and parking lot.
Fiscal year 2015/2016
includes the implementation of artificial turf or field lighting on some of
the fields at ITC Community Sports Park.
Commissioner Policicchio
asked if the Greenway development for the ITC corridor accesses other money
beside Novi funds.
Director Mangum stated
that what is presented is what it would cost. If there were opportunities
for other monies through grants we would access as much as possible.
Commissioner Policicchio
stated he thinks the Greenway development is in conjunction with a master
regional plan. He then asked if the Power Park asphalt pathway and access
road have already been budgeted or repaired.
Director Mangum stated
that the entryway in to Power Park and the parking lot is in this year’s
capital plan and will be done in the spring. The pathway behind the woods
has not been approved but is in the non-motorized master plan.
Commissioner Wingfield
asked what the timeframe is for the CIP 2012/2013.
Director Mangum stated
that there is not a way to get all of our projects funded so that is when we
look at our priorities. It will be finalized at the time of the budget. We
will not know how much money we have available until we get closer to the
end of the fiscal year. We need to decide what we need and our priorities.
Commissioner Tecklenburg
asked what was in the budget for 2011/2012.
Director Mangum stated
that one of the projects was the Power Park parking lot and road. Others
were fencing repair at ITC Community Sports Park baseball field and
irrigation repair including the pump house. Landings Park was also included.
The amount for these is around eight hundred thousand dollars.
Commissioner Tecklenburg
asked how we are breaking up the upcoming projects by year when we
prioritize. He asked if it was by dollars.
Director Mangum stated
it was by dollars and priority of immediate need. This can change if
something like a safety issue has to be addressed. This is a guide.
Commissioner Policicchio
asked Director Mangum to describe the process for the CIP and if any of the
projects fit in to some larger plan.
Director Mangum stated
that the Commission gives recommendations, the department will finalize
those and will be put in with the general budget. The recommendations are
taken to City Council who asks questions about the proposals. City Council
ultimately approves the budget for the fiscal year.
He also stated that the
Greenway project fits in to the non-motorized master plan. Some of the items
may also have potential for other funding sources. We do not have a Parks
and Recreation Master Plan and it is something he would like to see happen.
It is also one of the mandatory standards for the accreditation process.
Commissioner Wingfield
stated that he thought we did have a plan.
Director Mangum stated
that we do have a Community Recreation Plan but that deals more with
recreation. We also have a Strategic Plan that deals with goals and
objectives. These would be part of the Parks and Recreation Master Plan. We
also have an Older Adults Plan that goes through 2012/2013. We are in the
process of doing the community survey to get the input.
Commissioner Staab asked
if in December the department has to turn in the recommendation and will
then go to two members of the Planning Commission and two members of City
Council and they coordinate the master CIP and goes in to the budget process
and each department supports their own projects.
Director Mangum stated
that is correct.
Commissioner Staab
suggested tabling this discussion for tonight and them as Commissioners go
to their constituents and get feedback and be ready for the December
Commission Meeting.
Director Mangum stated
that he is pleased with the diversity of the interests and concerns of the
Commissioners.
CITIZEN COMMENTS: None
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS:
Student Representative Kodali stated that he
liked the idea for Landings Park.
Commissioner Tecklenburg stated that he would
encourage everyone to come and enjoy "Light Up the Night". He attended last
year. He stated that he enjoyed Director Mangum’s report on the National
Recreation & Park Association Congress and was glad he had that opportunity.
He commended Director Mangum and the department on the scope and number of
activities going on in different areas and the way they are successfully
managed.
Commissioner Wingfield stated this was a great
meeting. He asked if there will be an open meeting for the people who live
within a half mile of Landings Park to give their feedback.
Director Mangum stated this has not happened yet.
Goals and objectives of the park have been discussed and what was liked and
disliked about the previous concept plan and things we would like to see
integrated. It is our only major waterfront park so the connection to the
water is important and should be themed around that. Three potential options
came back to staff and engineering. What you saw was the result of that. The
reason they presented here tonight was to get feedback from the Commission
and will make changes based on what was said by the Commission and the
audience. At the next Commission Meeting, or before, we will have a public
hearing based on what was said here tonight. If there is something the
Commissioners want to add he invited them to send him an e-mail. At the next
Commission meeting we will have our public hearing. We will send out notices
to all of the people who live in the area. They will have the opportunity to
attend and submit their input. We will take that final plan in January or if
there is a second meeting in December to City Council. City Council will
have the opportunity to look at what we have come up with. We hope at that
time we will get a recommendation of support for the design. Once City
Council approves it they will break it up into phases and give us price
estimates which will give us numbers to put in our CIP.
Commissioner Wingfield stated several of the
Commissioners would like to go to the Michigan Parks and Recreation
Convention in February. They will pay their own way.
Director Mangum stated it is a good idea and that
this year the meeting is in Dearborn.
Commissioner Staab stated he agrees with what
Commissioner Wingfield said and stated that the MRPA Conference is where he
learned a lot about ADA and how to comply. He looks forward to finalizing
the CIP. He wished everyone a "Happy Thanksgiving".
Commissioner Policicchio had no comments.
Commissioner Dooley stated he wanted to
acknowledge the CERT volunteers who were part of the Fire Up Fest on
September the 16th. They worked in tandem and conjunction with
the Novi Athletic Booster’s Tastefest. It was a successful evening. On
October the 8th was the free hotdog cookout. They cooked 1000
hotdogs for youth soccer and youth football at ITC Community Sports Park.
Theresa McClure, Director Mangum and the Parks staff were very
accommodating. He named many City dignitaries who attended. SWOCC televised
the event. He invited everyone to come out to "Light Up the Night in Novi"
on December 2nd and see who the "Spirit of Giving" award is. He
wished everyone "Happy Thanksgiving".
ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made to adjourn by Commissioner
Wingfield and seconded by Commissioner Tecklenburg.
Voice Vote Unanimous
The meeting was adjourned by Commissioner at
9:21pm.
DATE APPROVED:
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